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	<title>Comments on: Interview: Miguel Altieri talks about food and fuel</title>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/lindsaypatterson/human-world/061834/interview-miguel-altieri-talks-about-food-and-fuel/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like the other writers, you have your facts wrong.  You may want to check out http://www.foodandfuelamerica.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the other writers, you have your facts wrong.  You may want to check out <a href="http://www.foodandfuelamerica.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.foodandfuelamerica.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: lindsay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/lindsaypatterson/human-world/061834/interview-miguel-altieri-talks-about-food-and-fuel/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for providing that link, Keith. It's a very interesting report.

You're also right that there is no embargo on Brazilian ethanol. It was my own misconception. &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/07/AR2007020702316_pf.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;This article from the Washington Post&lt;/a&gt; states that there is a 54-cent per gallon tariff on most imported ethanol, and it is unlikely that the US will lift the tariff until 2009.

I think the interesting point that Altieri is making is that the US hasn't been welcoming to South American ethanol in the past, but now that the government realizes it needs South America to reach its own ethanol goals, the US is admiring and embracing it. It makes you wonder how we're thinking about our long-term energy plans, and how we treat other countries in regards to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing that link, Keith. It&#8217;s a very interesting report.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also right that there is no embargo on Brazilian ethanol. It was my own misconception. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/07/AR2007020702316_pf.html" rel="nofollow">This article from the Washington Post</a> states that there is a 54-cent per gallon tariff on most imported ethanol, and it is unlikely that the US will lift the tariff until 2009.</p>
<p>I think the interesting point that Altieri is making is that the US hasn&#8217;t been welcoming to South American ethanol in the past, but now that the government realizes it needs South America to reach its own ethanol goals, the US is admiring and embracing it. It makes you wonder how we&#8217;re thinking about our long-term energy plans, and how we treat other countries in regards to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/lindsaypatterson/human-world/061834/interview-miguel-altieri-talks-about-food-and-fuel/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops -- edited my comment incorrectly.  The first 2 sentences should actually read as follows:

Bob is very correct, Altieri is wrong about imports of Brazilian ethanol into the US. There has never been an embargo or moratorium on sugarcane ethanol from Brazil (nor on Argentine ethanol).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8212; edited my comment incorrectly.  The first 2 sentences should actually read as follows:</p>
<p>Bob is very correct, Altieri is wrong about imports of Brazilian ethanol into the US. There has never been an embargo or moratorium on sugarcane ethanol from Brazil (nor on Argentine ethanol).</p>
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		<title>By: Keith R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/lindsaypatterson/human-world/061834/interview-miguel-altieri-talks-about-food-and-fuel/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob is very correct, Altieri is wrong about imports of Brazilian ethanol into the US (nor on Argentine ethanol).  There has never been an embargo or moratorium on sugarcane ethanol from Brazil.  There is, however, a high tariff that Brazil, &lt;a href="http://www.temasactuales.com/temasblog/?p=136" rel="nofollow"&gt;the Inter-American Development Bank&lt;/a&gt; and former Florida governor Jeb Bush have been lobbying to get dropped (but GW and the US Congress will never do that because of the US farm lobby and farm caucus).  

Makes me wonder about the rest of what Altieri says.  Much of it sounds like a regurgitation of what certain NGOs have been claiming based on lots of shaky suppositions and worst-case projections presented as certainties.  The &lt;a href="http://www.temasactuales.com/temasblog/?p=287" rel="nofollow"&gt;recent ECLAC/FAO report&lt;/a&gt; is a bit more balanced, raising some of the same concerns but also pointing out potential positives and how to avoid the perceived pitfalls.

And BTW, for Altieri to equate Argentina's history in ethanol production with Brazil's is puzzling.  Brazil has been involved in it far, far longer (you can trace it back to the 1930's) and far more seriously by just about every measure you can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob is very correct, Altieri is wrong about imports of Brazilian ethanol into the US (nor on Argentine ethanol).  There has never been an embargo or moratorium on sugarcane ethanol from Brazil.  There is, however, a high tariff that Brazil, <a href="http://www.temasactuales.com/temasblog/?p=136" rel="nofollow">the Inter-American Development Bank</a> and former Florida governor Jeb Bush have been lobbying to get dropped (but GW and the US Congress will never do that because of the US farm lobby and farm caucus).  </p>
<p>Makes me wonder about the rest of what Altieri says.  Much of it sounds like a regurgitation of what certain NGOs have been claiming based on lots of shaky suppositions and worst-case projections presented as certainties.  The <a href="http://www.temasactuales.com/temasblog/?p=287" rel="nofollow">recent ECLAC/FAO report</a> is a bit more balanced, raising some of the same concerns but also pointing out potential positives and how to avoid the perceived pitfalls.</p>
<p>And BTW, for Altieri to equate Argentina&#8217;s history in ethanol production with Brazil&#8217;s is puzzling.  Brazil has been involved in it far, far longer (you can trace it back to the 1930&#8217;s) and far more seriously by just about every measure you can think of.</p>
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		<title>By: Hints That Focus On Food And Drink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Before the war Germany was much better prepared than the Allies in</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hints That Focus On Food And Drink &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Before the war Germany was much better prepared than the Allies in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Food And Drink Scene Today &#187; The strength of all wines depends upon the quantity of alcohol or brandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Food And Drink Scene Today &#187; The strength of all wines depends upon the quantity of alcohol or brandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend, while I agree with your concern, your facts are so distorted you lose all credibility on what you state correctly.  For example:  What moratorium does the united states have on Brazil ethanol?  Please google this.  They have an import tarrif, but no moratorium.  You're generalizing too much on several points.  

Bob 
Sao Paulo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend, while I agree with your concern, your facts are so distorted you lose all credibility on what you state correctly.  For example:  What moratorium does the united states have on Brazil ethanol?  Please google this.  They have an import tarrif, but no moratorium.  You&#8217;re generalizing too much on several points.  </p>
<p>Bob<br />
Sao Paulo</p>
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		<title>By: Food And Drink Data &#187; From the Chicago Home is issued a monthly paper called _The</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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