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		<title>By: Larry Sessions</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/larrysessions/atmospheric-events/100438/how-to-identify-a-ufo/#comment-12737</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Sessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph:

Well, if you think that I have said implies that anyone who thinks he or she has seen a UFO is an idiot, or crazy or stupid, then it is clear that you haven't read very carefully. In any event, what you may think I have implied is your interpretation, based on your own preconceived set of ideas.

There are intelligent people who have reported UFOs, and many more who have seen things in the sky that they couldn't explain, but refused to jump to the unfounded conclusion that they were alien spacecraft or some kind of manifestation of alien or other-dimensional life. However, there are many who report sightings as UFOs, expecting them to be extraterrestrial and who in turn completely reject any other hypothesis. Don't misinterpret me here: people who make reports like this without any evidence other than something they sighted in the sky, are NOT being rational and logical. They might be highly logical in other circumstances, but accepting the existence of something without evidence is not the logical approach. In some cases, such people can become highly irrational, illogical and untouched by reason. I am not implying anything -- I have stated it outright -- but I am stating my opinion based more on logic than on emotion.

In everyday life there are many things we believe without specific proof -- that this apple is not poisoned or that snakes taste like chicken -- but we do so through experience or by trusting whoever or whatever source said it. I true apples in general because I have never eaten a poisonous one yet, and a trusted person told me that snake tastes like chicken. (I have never personally eaten snake, nor do I intend to do so.) In most cases like this we accept some idea because it is relatively unimportant and just simpler to believe it. But quite the contrary with UFOs, as many people rightly claim that if true, extraterrestrial visitations to our planet can have profound impact. Because of such potential importance, we should not in my opinion accept the concept on faith or based on the so-far flimsy evidence.

I cannot say categorically that everyone who has reported a UFO encounter is wrong, any more than I can say that anyone who reports a leprechaun is looney. I cannot logically prove that either leprechauns or alien-life UFOs are not real. That's why I rely on the test of evidence, and frankly there is no widely studied or accepted evidence of either. 

There have always been topics originally unaccepted or scorned by science and/or the public in general, which ultimately turned out to be true or at least partially true. Consider Aristarchus' concept of a Sun-centered Cosmos, or the reports hundreds of years ago of hairy ape men in Africa. Despite long-engrained ancient ideas about the Earth's supposed centrality, we now know without doubt that the Sun is the center of the solar system, though not the Cosmos; and of course it is a good bet that the ape men reported by early explorers in Africa were in fact gorillas. So when evidence comes forth, science changes and embraces it. But in more than 60 years in the spotlight in an increasingly technological world, the UFO phenomenon has not produced a single un-fakable piece of physical evidence. True, I have seen some photos and old film that it seem rather hard to imagine that they had been faked, but that is simply not good enough proof. 

There are lots of fun and interesting stories out there about close encounters, abductions, little bodies in Area 51 (or wherever), but such stories do not constitute acceptable evidence.

And I am sorry, but witnesses *can* be mistaken and especially when confronted with something they don't understand, often are wrong. This has been proven time and time again and is why science in particular requires good corroborating evidence rather than blindly accepting a person's word.

If you or anyone else chooses to think that UFOs are evidence of alien life, or any of the other associated ideas, fine. That's your choice, but you should admit that it is a belief based on unproven ideas, not hard evidence.

LS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph:</p>
<p>Well, if you think that I have said implies that anyone who thinks he or she has seen a UFO is an idiot, or crazy or stupid, then it is clear that you haven&#8217;t read very carefully. In any event, what you may think I have implied is your interpretation, based on your own preconceived set of ideas.</p>
<p>There are intelligent people who have reported UFOs, and many more who have seen things in the sky that they couldn&#8217;t explain, but refused to jump to the unfounded conclusion that they were alien spacecraft or some kind of manifestation of alien or other-dimensional life. However, there are many who report sightings as UFOs, expecting them to be extraterrestrial and who in turn completely reject any other hypothesis. Don&#8217;t misinterpret me here: people who make reports like this without any evidence other than something they sighted in the sky, are NOT being rational and logical. They might be highly logical in other circumstances, but accepting the existence of something without evidence is not the logical approach. In some cases, such people can become highly irrational, illogical and untouched by reason. I am not implying anything &#8212; I have stated it outright &#8212; but I am stating my opinion based more on logic than on emotion.</p>
<p>In everyday life there are many things we believe without specific proof &#8212; that this apple is not poisoned or that snakes taste like chicken &#8212; but we do so through experience or by trusting whoever or whatever source said it. I true apples in general because I have never eaten a poisonous one yet, and a trusted person told me that snake tastes like chicken. (I have never personally eaten snake, nor do I intend to do so.) In most cases like this we accept some idea because it is relatively unimportant and just simpler to believe it. But quite the contrary with UFOs, as many people rightly claim that if true, extraterrestrial visitations to our planet can have profound impact. Because of such potential importance, we should not in my opinion accept the concept on faith or based on the so-far flimsy evidence.</p>
<p>I cannot say categorically that everyone who has reported a UFO encounter is wrong, any more than I can say that anyone who reports a leprechaun is looney. I cannot logically prove that either leprechauns or alien-life UFOs are not real. That&#8217;s why I rely on the test of evidence, and frankly there is no widely studied or accepted evidence of either. </p>
<p>There have always been topics originally unaccepted or scorned by science and/or the public in general, which ultimately turned out to be true or at least partially true. Consider Aristarchus&#8217; concept of a Sun-centered Cosmos, or the reports hundreds of years ago of hairy ape men in Africa. Despite long-engrained ancient ideas about the Earth&#8217;s supposed centrality, we now know without doubt that the Sun is the center of the solar system, though not the Cosmos; and of course it is a good bet that the ape men reported by early explorers in Africa were in fact gorillas. So when evidence comes forth, science changes and embraces it. But in more than 60 years in the spotlight in an increasingly technological world, the UFO phenomenon has not produced a single un-fakable piece of physical evidence. True, I have seen some photos and old film that it seem rather hard to imagine that they had been faked, but that is simply not good enough proof. </p>
<p>There are lots of fun and interesting stories out there about close encounters, abductions, little bodies in Area 51 (or wherever), but such stories do not constitute acceptable evidence.</p>
<p>And I am sorry, but witnesses *can* be mistaken and especially when confronted with something they don&#8217;t understand, often are wrong. This has been proven time and time again and is why science in particular requires good corroborating evidence rather than blindly accepting a person&#8217;s word.</p>
<p>If you or anyone else chooses to think that UFOs are evidence of alien life, or any of the other associated ideas, fine. That&#8217;s your choice, but you should admit that it is a belief based on unproven ideas, not hard evidence.</p>
<p>LS</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Capp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Capp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Larry,
You imply what every other extreme skeptic  implies that people are idiots. You try to be kind about it but that is why you mean. 
Project Bluebook concluded that in the unknowns(which were separated intentionally from ...("Unknowns but with further information could  probably be explained") discovered the more knowledgeable the witness was  the harder it was to explain. Scientist looking through binoculars...Pilots close encounters...you name it good witness have reported UFO "craft",  in day time, and in great detail which all of you seem to miss.. Of all the explanations by skeptics and debunkers I've  read, and I have read quite a few, most of it is voodoo science to say the least  and  an uninformed opinion at best.
I don't see anyone questioning the faulty hoaxed trajectory  mathematic calculations on the Roswell Mogul Balloon hypothesis or any other of the obvious nonsense put forward. Of course than is not your job your job is to make it look like some kind of new plasma. What you problem is that you imply UFO witnesses who see strange craft no matter who they are get in wrong 100% percent of the time. You imply this is not in daytime right there heads as in the many police reports in America and the UK. 
I am not afraid to say exterterestal because the first Officer Government investigation body on UFO's also concluded this as a probability "Project Sign". As much as scientist think they know the answers I think someone out there knows more.
And for last to the bunch of skeptics who say why don't they land; why would they?
 You can again and again make stupid comments  on  how witnesses are can be mistaken. 
You better hope if your ever in front of a Judge some day and your innocent, that you have "informed jury members" to decide your case. And if your answer me by saying Jury's make mistakes I say jury's get it right most of the time and never wrong one hundred percent of the time.

 Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Larry,<br />
You imply what every other extreme skeptic  implies that people are idiots. You try to be kind about it but that is why you mean.<br />
Project Bluebook concluded that in the unknowns(which were separated intentionally from &#8230;(&#8221;Unknowns but with further information could  probably be explained&#8221;) discovered the more knowledgeable the witness was  the harder it was to explain. Scientist looking through binoculars&#8230;Pilots close encounters&#8230;you name it good witness have reported UFO &#8220;craft&#8221;,  in day time, and in great detail which all of you seem to miss.. Of all the explanations by skeptics and debunkers I&#8217;ve  read, and I have read quite a few, most of it is voodoo science to say the least  and  an uninformed opinion at best.<br />
I don&#8217;t see anyone questioning the faulty hoaxed trajectory  mathematic calculations on the Roswell Mogul Balloon hypothesis or any other of the obvious nonsense put forward. Of course than is not your job your job is to make it look like some kind of new plasma. What you problem is that you imply UFO witnesses who see strange craft no matter who they are get in wrong 100% percent of the time. You imply this is not in daytime right there heads as in the many police reports in America and the UK.<br />
I am not afraid to say exterterestal because the first Officer Government investigation body on UFO&#8217;s also concluded this as a probability &#8220;Project Sign&#8221;. As much as scientist think they know the answers I think someone out there knows more.<br />
And for last to the bunch of skeptics who say why don&#8217;t they land; why would they?<br />
 You can again and again make stupid comments  on  how witnesses are can be mistaken.<br />
You better hope if your ever in front of a Judge some day and your innocent, that you have &#8220;informed jury members&#8221; to decide your case. And if your answer me by saying Jury&#8217;s make mistakes I say jury&#8217;s get it right most of the time and never wrong one hundred percent of the time.</p>
<p> Joseph Capp<br />
UFO Media Matters<br />
Non-Commercial Blog</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sessions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Sessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JS,
Why do you suppose that "an extraterestial artifact is about as likely as finding a bigfoot nest"? It could be because they are extremely rare or because they do not exist. I cannot prove that either does not exist. As you note, eyewitness accounts are diverse, vary greatly in quality, and are often distorted and sometimes even fabricated. In fact, without good corroborating evidence, they are no more than hearsay from a scientific standpoint. Acknowleding this, science simply requires evidence, and eyewitness accounts just don't cut it in science. They may be OK in a court of law, but not the court of science. Again, that is not to say that the account is necessarily wrong or misintrepreted, but we know that this is very frequently the case. What you saw may have been any of the things you mentioned (although I have never seen ball lightning, and have never heard of an auroral display looking like what you describe, and any kind of large scale aerial "tactical hologram" is to say the least, unlikely). One time long ago I saw something that might be at least remotely similar to what you saw. I was out with a class working on their observing project and I would see out of the corner of my eye a streaking flash of light in a certain direction. I saw it several times, and it moved apparently as fast as a meteor and sometimes appeared with an elongated or even bent shape. I do not recall specifically, but it could have had a boomarang shape. Well, if really had me puzzled for a while, but I finally figured out that it was a bird (what I used to call a "beer-it" bird for the sound it makes, but is better known as a nighthawk or nightjar) that was flying in and out of the light from an upwardly turned streetlight a short distance away. Based on your description, this is not likely what you experienced, but I am just using it as an example.

I just don't know what you saw, and without evidence more solid than an eyewitness account, no matter how detailed the report is and how honest you are, there is nothing further I can say.

Larry S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS,<br />
Why do you suppose that &#8220;an extraterestial artifact is about as likely as finding a bigfoot nest&#8221;? It could be because they are extremely rare or because they do not exist. I cannot prove that either does not exist. As you note, eyewitness accounts are diverse, vary greatly in quality, and are often distorted and sometimes even fabricated. In fact, without good corroborating evidence, they are no more than hearsay from a scientific standpoint. Acknowleding this, science simply requires evidence, and eyewitness accounts just don&#8217;t cut it in science. They may be OK in a court of law, but not the court of science. Again, that is not to say that the account is necessarily wrong or misintrepreted, but we know that this is very frequently the case. What you saw may have been any of the things you mentioned (although I have never seen ball lightning, and have never heard of an auroral display looking like what you describe, and any kind of large scale aerial &#8220;tactical hologram&#8221; is to say the least, unlikely). One time long ago I saw something that might be at least remotely similar to what you saw. I was out with a class working on their observing project and I would see out of the corner of my eye a streaking flash of light in a certain direction. I saw it several times, and it moved apparently as fast as a meteor and sometimes appeared with an elongated or even bent shape. I do not recall specifically, but it could have had a boomarang shape. Well, if really had me puzzled for a while, but I finally figured out that it was a bird (what I used to call a &#8220;beer-it&#8221; bird for the sound it makes, but is better known as a nighthawk or nightjar) that was flying in and out of the light from an upwardly turned streetlight a short distance away. Based on your description, this is not likely what you experienced, but I am just using it as an example.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t know what you saw, and without evidence more solid than an eyewitness account, no matter how detailed the report is and how honest you are, there is nothing further I can say.</p>
<p>Larry S.</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
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		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course science needs evidence,this is merely a testimony of my sighting of an aerial phenomenon. It may have been a plasma-like ball lighting that had somehow attained an aerodynamic shape as it moved through the atmosphere or perhaps some unusual auroral display; maybe even some sort of tactical hologram experiment, a few of these over a city would cause a mass panic.
 I was however talking to a friend on the phone at the time and described the ufo as I saw it, not scientific, but narrated in real time, so my memory is quite clear.
 The question of course is belief versus knowledge, I know I saw something and I believe it had a certain shape,size and trajectory.
 The only evidence acceptable today would be an artifact; eyewitness accounts, as anyone who took phych 101 knows, are notoriously diverse; and now any image can be created and manipulated. Such an artifact could only come from a crash and for me it would be reassuring to know that they (whoever they are)  are not so advanced that they cannot have accidents.But findind an extraterestial artifact is about as likely as finding a bigfoot nest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course science needs evidence,this is merely a testimony of my sighting of an aerial phenomenon. It may have been a plasma-like ball lighting that had somehow attained an aerodynamic shape as it moved through the atmosphere or perhaps some unusual auroral display; maybe even some sort of tactical hologram experiment, a few of these over a city would cause a mass panic.<br />
 I was however talking to a friend on the phone at the time and described the ufo as I saw it, not scientific, but narrated in real time, so my memory is quite clear.<br />
 The question of course is belief versus knowledge, I know I saw something and I believe it had a certain shape,size and trajectory.<br />
 The only evidence acceptable today would be an artifact; eyewitness accounts, as anyone who took phych 101 knows, are notoriously diverse; and now any image can be created and manipulated. Such an artifact could only come from a crash and for me it would be reassuring to know that they (whoever they are)  are not so advanced that they cannot have accidents.But findind an extraterestial artifact is about as likely as finding a bigfoot nest.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sessions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Sessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JS, what you describe, exactly as you describe it in all detail, has no natural explanation of which I know. There is no known astronomical, meteorological or any other known natural phenomenon that would move and change in exactly the manner you describe. If you had some solid physical evidence, I would certainly be thrilled because I find this kind of thing fascinating. Whether it might have been an alien spacecraft, or as J. Allen Hynek came to believe, the manifestation of interdimensional or time travellers, or some form of supernatural phenomenon, I would be absolutely enthralled. I want for such things to be true. I can't quite articulate why, but it seems to me that if such things were true, it would somehow be a very hopeful sign for mankind.

However -- and please correct me if I am wrong, because I certainly have been wrong about things in the past -- I suspect that you do not have any evidence other than your description. We can all become very convinced about things we have experienced, but studies have shown that our memories and our perceptions are not always very correct.

I do not know what you saw or experienced. As such, I cannot tell you what it was. I can only form an opinion based on my experience in dealing with folks who have reported similar things. My experience is that no one has every supplied a single shred of scientifically verifiable evidence. My opinion -- and take it for whatever it is worth to you -- is that what you saw likely was a misinterpretation of some natural phenomenon. But I do not know. You may be the soul of honesty and observational prowess, but unless you have undeniable physical evidence, your report is baseless from the standpoint of science.

Note that I did not say that your observation was worthless or that you did not observe what you said you observed. But what I am saying is that science demands evidence, and that a verbal description is not acceptable evidence. I do not know what you saw. I was not there. As such, I will remain skeptical that it was anything other than a natural or manmade phenomena -- or a misinterpretation of one of these.

Larry Sessions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS, what you describe, exactly as you describe it in all detail, has no natural explanation of which I know. There is no known astronomical, meteorological or any other known natural phenomenon that would move and change in exactly the manner you describe. If you had some solid physical evidence, I would certainly be thrilled because I find this kind of thing fascinating. Whether it might have been an alien spacecraft, or as J. Allen Hynek came to believe, the manifestation of interdimensional or time travellers, or some form of supernatural phenomenon, I would be absolutely enthralled. I want for such things to be true. I can&#8217;t quite articulate why, but it seems to me that if such things were true, it would somehow be a very hopeful sign for mankind.</p>
<p>However &#8212; and please correct me if I am wrong, because I certainly have been wrong about things in the past &#8212; I suspect that you do not have any evidence other than your description. We can all become very convinced about things we have experienced, but studies have shown that our memories and our perceptions are not always very correct.</p>
<p>I do not know what you saw or experienced. As such, I cannot tell you what it was. I can only form an opinion based on my experience in dealing with folks who have reported similar things. My experience is that no one has every supplied a single shred of scientifically verifiable evidence. My opinion &#8212; and take it for whatever it is worth to you &#8212; is that what you saw likely was a misinterpretation of some natural phenomenon. But I do not know. You may be the soul of honesty and observational prowess, but unless you have undeniable physical evidence, your report is baseless from the standpoint of science.</p>
<p>Note that I did not say that your observation was worthless or that you did not observe what you said you observed. But what I am saying is that science demands evidence, and that a verbal description is not acceptable evidence. I do not know what you saw. I was not there. As such, I will remain skeptical that it was anything other than a natural or manmade phenomena &#8212; or a misinterpretation of one of these.</p>
<p>Larry Sessions</p>
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		<title>By: js</title>
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		<dc:creator>js</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a skeptic myself, until last Monday (10-22-07), now I would really like to know what flew over my house at about 8:30 cdt.
I was in the spa talking on the phone, facing south. Low clouds were moving south and the moon was about half-full, still low in the sky. Whatever it was it was very big, moving southeast very fast, of course at first I thought maybe geese or possibly a spotlight, but it was well above the clouds and moving much faster. The whole sighting lasted only 5 or 6 seconds.
 The object was boomerang shaped, sort of like the B2, but much thicker and smoother, almost an organic shape. There were no lights, but it seemed to be glowing a milky white, which I think was reflected moonlight from the clouds below. How big was it? good question, from my perspective it was about the size of water bottle held at arms length. If it was anywhere near the altitude it appeared, it would have to be huge, the size of two supertankers bow to bow.
 We are not talking about lights in the sky here, I'm ony 30 miles from NASA's balloon facility in Palestine,Texas; I've seen lots of high altitude balloons. I have seen shuttles pass overhead, and I watched Columbia fall, the debris raining down literally on my doorstep. 
 This object was moving as fast as a shuttle on re-entry, when a shuttle comes in, you hear the twin booms, but not until it is already below the eastern horizon; this was silent, like a meteor. If I was not looking right at that part of the sky at that very moment I would have missed it. 
 Sure hope it was one of ours, keep looking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a skeptic myself, until last Monday (10-22-07), now I would really like to know what flew over my house at about 8:30 cdt.<br />
I was in the spa talking on the phone, facing south. Low clouds were moving south and the moon was about half-full, still low in the sky. Whatever it was it was very big, moving southeast very fast, of course at first I thought maybe geese or possibly a spotlight, but it was well above the clouds and moving much faster. The whole sighting lasted only 5 or 6 seconds.<br />
 The object was boomerang shaped, sort of like the B2, but much thicker and smoother, almost an organic shape. There were no lights, but it seemed to be glowing a milky white, which I think was reflected moonlight from the clouds below. How big was it? good question, from my perspective it was about the size of water bottle held at arms length. If it was anywhere near the altitude it appeared, it would have to be huge, the size of two supertankers bow to bow.<br />
 We are not talking about lights in the sky here, I&#8217;m ony 30 miles from NASA&#8217;s balloon facility in Palestine,Texas; I&#8217;ve seen lots of high altitude balloons. I have seen shuttles pass overhead, and I watched Columbia fall, the debris raining down literally on my doorstep.<br />
 This object was moving as fast as a shuttle on re-entry, when a shuttle comes in, you hear the twin booms, but not until it is already below the eastern horizon; this was silent, like a meteor. If I was not looking right at that part of the sky at that very moment I would have missed it.<br />
 Sure hope it was one of ours, keep looking up.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zephyrus, you also need to consider whether "undeniable" evidence is truly undeniable. But yes, you echo my thoughts nearly verbatim.

Carl, I assume you have that X-Files poster in your room, "I Want to Believe"? That's great if you do, but you will of course forgive the rest of us who are pursuing a more scientific approach. I bet I'm a "denier" too, since I ask questions and remain skeptical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zephyrus, you also need to consider whether &#8220;undeniable&#8221; evidence is truly undeniable. But yes, you echo my thoughts nearly verbatim.</p>
<p>Carl, I assume you have that X-Files poster in your room, &#8220;I Want to Believe&#8221;? That&#8217;s great if you do, but you will of course forgive the rest of us who are pursuing a more scientific approach. I bet I&#8217;m a &#8220;denier&#8221; too, since I ask questions and remain skeptical.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/larrysessions/atmospheric-events/100438/how-to-identify-a-ufo/#comment-4422</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zephyrus, you also need to consider whether "undeniable" evidence is truly undeniable. But yes, you echo my thoughts nearly verbatim.

Carl, I assume you have that X-Files poster in your room, "I Want to Believe"? That's great if you do, but you will of course forgive the rest of us who are pursuing a more scientific approach. I bet I'm a denier too, since I ask questions and remain skeptical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zephyrus, you also need to consider whether &#8220;undeniable&#8221; evidence is truly undeniable. But yes, you echo my thoughts nearly verbatim.</p>
<p>Carl, I assume you have that X-Files poster in your room, &#8220;I Want to Believe&#8221;? That&#8217;s great if you do, but you will of course forgive the rest of us who are pursuing a more scientific approach. I bet I&#8217;m a denier too, since I ask questions and remain skeptical.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sessions</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/larrysessions/atmospheric-events/100438/how-to-identify-a-ufo/#comment-4140</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Sessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, based on your description, you most assuredly did see a UFO -- as it was in the sky, apparently flying, and unidentified (to you, at least). It *could* be just about anything, but without further information,there is no way to say what exactly it was.

Can you provide an exact time of observation? (I'm not sure if the 10:30 p.m. stamp here is your time or when it was posted, server time). I would also need to know how long you observed it, and approximate how much it moved. Where was it relative to the horizon (how high above the horizon) and in what direction (east, northwest, what)? Without more specific information it is impossible even to give a guess.

Larry S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, based on your description, you most assuredly did see a UFO &#8212; as it was in the sky, apparently flying, and unidentified (to you, at least). It *could* be just about anything, but without further information,there is no way to say what exactly it was.</p>
<p>Can you provide an exact time of observation? (I&#8217;m not sure if the 10:30 p.m. stamp here is your time or when it was posted, server time). I would also need to know how long you observed it, and approximate how much it moved. Where was it relative to the horizon (how high above the horizon) and in what direction (east, northwest, what)? Without more specific information it is impossible even to give a guess.</p>
<p>Larry S.</p>
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