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	<title>Comments on: Congressman to scientists: &#8220;science is only one factor&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: socratus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>socratus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the same time, he said, scientists should know “their own strengths and limits.”

 “We run the risk of loving science to death by first putting it on a pedestal, and then ripping it down, ” 
=============================================
In 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms, 
bombarding them with high energy a- particles. 
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.
 But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists to enlarge the target.
 Bomb them!
 And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.
 And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping to understand
 their inner structure. And they were surprised with the results of this bombing. 
Several hundreds of completely new strange particles appeared. 
They lived a very little time and do not relate to our world.
 Our Earth needs its real constants of nature. But this was forgotten. 
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.
 And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure of the particles. 
The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has deceived man. 
Physicist  think, that an accelerator - is first of all the presence of huge energy. 
And the Devil laughs.
 He knows, that an accelerator - is first of all the Vacuum. 
But this, he has withheld from man.
 He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.
 And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.
 And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.
 But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.
=================.
Rutherford  was right.
His followers are mistaken.
Why?
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and  1,20 m depth.
It is normal.
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig 
a base for a huge building (skyscraper), 
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,  
will you call me a normal man?
=========================.
Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.
 And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches
 by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.
 Does he have many chances to succeed?
 As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand
 the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.
 If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,
 the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.
================== .
 The physicists can not indefinitely break the particles.
The science can not eternally develop to “mad infinity.”
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the same time, he said, scientists should know “their own strengths and limits.”</p>
<p> “We run the risk of loving science to death by first putting it on a pedestal, and then ripping it down, ”<br />
=============================================<br />
In 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms,<br />
bombarding them with high energy a- particles.<br />
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.<br />
 But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists to enlarge the target.<br />
 Bomb them!<br />
 And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.<br />
 And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping to understand<br />
 their inner structure. And they were surprised with the results of this bombing.<br />
Several hundreds of completely new strange particles appeared.<br />
They lived a very little time and do not relate to our world.<br />
 Our Earth needs its real constants of nature. But this was forgotten.<br />
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.<br />
 And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure of the particles.<br />
The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has deceived man.<br />
Physicist  think, that an accelerator - is first of all the presence of huge energy.<br />
And the Devil laughs.<br />
 He knows, that an accelerator - is first of all the Vacuum.<br />
But this, he has withheld from man.<br />
 He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.<br />
 And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.<br />
 And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.<br />
 But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.<br />
=================.<br />
Rutherford  was right.<br />
His followers are mistaken.<br />
Why?<br />
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.<br />
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and  1,20 m depth.<br />
It is normal.<br />
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig<br />
a base for a huge building (skyscraper),<br />
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,<br />
will you call me a normal man?<br />
=========================.<br />
Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.<br />
 And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches<br />
 by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.<br />
 Does he have many chances to succeed?<br />
 As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand<br />
 the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.<br />
 If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,<br />
 the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.<br />
================== .<br />
 The physicists can not indefinitely break the particles.<br />
The science can not eternally develop to “mad infinity.”<br />
==========================.</p>
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		<title>By: deborahbyrd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>deborahbyrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, right.

I just don't get it.

But then there are so many things I don't understand.

Deborah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, right.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>But then there are so many things I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Deborah</p>
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		<title>By: David LaFerney</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>David LaFerney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh Deborah, clearly science is right at the top of all of those decision making factors - right behind corporate profits, re-election, low taxes, and public opinion.  If you people could just make science that is popular, increases profits, lowers taxes and helps our fearless leaders to keep their jobs then it would rise up to be the top decision making factor.  Scientists just need to get with the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh Deborah, clearly science is right at the top of all of those decision making factors - right behind corporate profits, re-election, low taxes, and public opinion.  If you people could just make science that is popular, increases profits, lowers taxes and helps our fearless leaders to keep their jobs then it would rise up to be the top decision making factor.  Scientists just need to get with the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Byrd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn't always feel that good!  The story today of a &lt;a href="http://www.earthsky.org/article/disasterous-effects-of-warming-closer-than-thought-says-nasa-study" rel="nofollow"&gt;new study from James Hansen at NASA&lt;/a&gt; doesn't feel so great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t always feel that good!  The story today of a <a href="http://www.earthsky.org/article/disasterous-effects-of-warming-closer-than-thought-says-nasa-study" rel="nofollow">new study from James Hansen at NASA</a> doesn&#8217;t feel so great.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“We run the risk of loving science to death..."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How can loving science be so bad when it feels so good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“We run the risk of loving science to death&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>How can loving science be so bad when it feels so good?</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Byrd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge, I think I'm with you here.

It sounds as if you're saying that people should pay attention to science.

That's what I think, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge, I think I&#8217;m with you here.</p>
<p>It sounds as if you&#8217;re saying that people should pay attention to science.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I think, too.</p>
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		<title>By: jorgesalazar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>jorgesalazar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Pretending that science is going to settle a dispute that is really about values or money or anything else just leads to muddled thinking and distorted debates that are damaging to both science and policy in the long run." - Sen. Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY)

I think people need a little more credit for their ability to adapt to new realities made clear by the latest science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pretending that science is going to settle a dispute that is really about values or money or anything else just leads to muddled thinking and distorted debates that are damaging to both science and policy in the long run.&#8221; - Sen. Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY)</p>
<p>I think people need a little more credit for their ability to adapt to new realities made clear by the latest science.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Byrd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.earthsky.org/deborahbyrd/science/052949/congressman-to-scientists-science-only-one-factor/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I read what he was saying slightly differently.  I was surprised that he was saying that science is &lt;i&gt;only one&lt;/i&gt; of the factors that politicians consider when making policy decisions.

Okay, I've worked in science reporting for 30 years, so my view is skewed.  But I would have thought that science carried a heavier weight ...

On the other hand, as Boehlert pointed out, scientists don't always agree.

Deborah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I read what he was saying slightly differently.  I was surprised that he was saying that science is <i>only one</i> of the factors that politicians consider when making policy decisions.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve worked in science reporting for 30 years, so my view is skewed.  But I would have thought that science carried a heavier weight &#8230;</p>
<p>On the other hand, as Boehlert pointed out, scientists don&#8217;t always agree.</p>
<p>Deborah</p>
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		<title>By: sglasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>sglasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like this guy knows what he is talking about. It would do our government good to have more science behind our decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like this guy knows what he is talking about. It would do our government good to have more science behind our decisions.</p>
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