Comments on: Mystery of the missing carbon dioxide http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/ Exploring Science and the Environment Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:59:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dan Kulpinski http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-750 Dan Kulpinski Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:47:30 +0000 http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-750 Carl -- Actually, 2007 was almost the warmest year on record. A NASA study put it at tied for second-warmest (with 1998) and a NOAA study put it at fifth-warmest. See my new post about 2007 temperatures here: http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2008/01/25/2007-continued-warm-trend/ It's true that greenhouse gases do not make up a huge percentage of the atmosphere, but they do keep our planet warm enough to be habitable. (See this EPA link for the exact makeup of the atmosphere: http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/glossary.html#atmosphere Increases in CO2, however, have gone hand-in-hand with temperature increases for the past 400,000 years. See http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc_fig1.html The concern about climate change comes from hard data such as this. Carl — Actually, 2007 was almost the warmest year on record. A NASA study put it at tied for second-warmest (with 1998) and a NOAA study put it at fifth-warmest. See my new post about 2007 temperatures here: http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2008/01/25/2007-continued-warm-trend/

It’s true that greenhouse gases do not make up a huge percentage of the atmosphere, but they do keep our planet warm enough to be habitable. (See this EPA link for the exact makeup of the atmosphere: http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/glossary.html#atmosphere

Increases in CO2, however, have gone hand-in-hand with temperature increases for the past 400,000 years. See http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc_fig1.html

The concern about climate change comes from hard data such as this.

]]> By: Carl Fisher http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-749 Carl Fisher Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:19:16 +0000 http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-749 Why are such generalized unscientific statements used in a supposedly scientific article about CO2 in the atmosphere? ("Tracking Carbon trail to find why so much fills the atmosphere") ("atmospheric CO2 levels have jumped 35% in recent centuries.") ("Much of the CO2 remains in the atmosphere, a reality that could help to make 2007 one of the warmest years on record.") When I go to actual scientific sites, on the Web, I find that the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is measured in parts per million, at .038% (38 one thousandths of one percent. The oceans of the world are measured at 1.9%, roughly 50 times that of the atmosphere. Thus the oceans and the atmosphere contain less than two percent. CO2 levels have gone up in recent centuries by a percentage but those figures are represented in parts per million so why the hyperbolic rhetoric? The statement that "2007 was headed to be one of the warmest years on record was just flat-wrong. It didn't come close. That term "so much" could more aptly be used to describe the amount of Junk Science that pervades the Web, these days. One thing is certain: It's in much higher quantities than parts per million. Science and Environmental Policy Project http://www.sepp.org/ "The Great Global Warming Swindle," article by S. Fred Singer http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1945 “Hundreds of scientists reject global warming”, article by Bob Unruh in Heat of the Moment, WorldNetDaily http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59319 New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfmFuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=84e9e44a-802a-23ad-493a-b35d0842fed8 Why are such generalized unscientific statements used in a supposedly scientific article about CO2 in the atmosphere? (”Tracking Carbon trail to find why so much fills the atmosphere”) (”atmospheric CO2 levels have jumped 35% in recent centuries.”)
(”Much of the CO2 remains in the atmosphere, a reality that could help to make 2007 one of the warmest years on record.”)

When I go to actual scientific sites, on the Web, I find that the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is measured in parts per million, at .038% (38 one thousandths of one percent. The oceans of the world are measured at 1.9%, roughly 50 times that of the atmosphere. Thus the oceans and the atmosphere contain less than two percent.

CO2 levels have gone up in recent centuries by a percentage but those figures are represented in parts per million so why the hyperbolic rhetoric?

The statement that “2007 was headed to be one of the warmest years on record was just flat-wrong. It didn’t come close.

That term “so much” could more aptly be used to describe the amount of Junk Science that pervades the Web, these days. One thing is certain: It’s in much higher quantities than parts per million.

Science and Environmental Policy Project
http://www.sepp.org/

“The Great Global Warming Swindle,” article by S. Fred Singer
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1945

“Hundreds of scientists reject global warming”, article by Bob Unruh in Heat of the Moment, WorldNetDaily
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59319

New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfmFuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=84e9e44a-802a-23ad-493a-b35d0842fed8

]]> By: Dan Kulpinski http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-673 Dan Kulpinski Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:25:00 +0000 http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-673 Dr. Coles: Citing Senator James Inhofe's (R-Ok.) blog does not make your case very credible. Inhofe has long claimed that climate change is a "hoax" -- a ridiculous idea and simply a way to avoid discussing the issue. Let's move away from politics and talk about science. The best available science we have is described in the four reports the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) put out last year. I suggest everyone interested in climate change read at least the summaries of these studies. The IPCC explains what we know about climate change, what we don't know, and what is likely to happen under various scenarios going forward. Link: http://www.ipcc.ch/ Dr. Coles: Citing Senator James Inhofe’s (R-Ok.) blog does not make your case very credible. Inhofe has long claimed that climate change is a “hoax” — a ridiculous idea and simply a way to avoid discussing the issue.

Let’s move away from politics and talk about science. The best available science we have is described in the four reports the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) put out last year. I suggest everyone interested in climate change read at least the summaries of these studies. The IPCC explains what we know about climate change, what we don’t know, and what is likely to happen under various scenarios going forward.

Link: http://www.ipcc.ch/

]]> By: Tom Hughes http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-671 Tom Hughes Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:23:27 +0000 http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-671 Im with you Dr. Coles,Im with you. Please read the taskings of this old grid scientist and hit them with that information if you find any value to my taskings. I will task and task until they finally get the real clues they need and we all can get a rebate for their shenanigans. Im with you Dr. Coles,Im with you. Please read the taskings of this old grid scientist and hit them with that information if you find any value to my taskings. I will task and task until they finally get the real clues they need and we all can get a rebate for their shenanigans.

]]> By: Dr Coles http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-648 Dr Coles Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:20:29 +0000 http://blogs.earthsky.org/dankulpinski/2007/12/31/mystery-of-the-missing-carbon-dioxide/#comment-648 U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007. http://tinyurl.com/2dv6nz U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007.
http://tinyurl.com/2dv6nz

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